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PostSubject: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:32 pm

If you have ever watched a raptor game you know 2 things. 1.He's lazy
2.His basketball IQ is non existent.
3.He's not aggressive.
oh fuck..thats 3
This is a guy who comes out,considered a big steal and hands down the best athlete of the draft class and so far is laying a bigass funky egg. He could easily be a 16 ppg guy....Everyone knows the raptors offense runs through the post and bargnani so he needs to cut to the basket when calderon is your pg and the offense is run through the post your gonna get the ball if you cut...and stop trying to be a perimiter ball player. What are your thoughts on the guy? and who are some other players who you consider to be "laying a bigass funky egg"
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:00 pm

Maybe a new PG and a slightly different offensive system will help? I don't think he ever really fit in with Jarrett Jack.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:16 pm

Too early to make such a statement.

In addition, he is getting accustomed to playing more minutes compared to last season.
Even then, his minutes are somewhat sporadic...the times he gets more minutes are the times he scores in the double digits.

Pus, if you watch some of the games...you can see that he has improved his shooting from mid-range. Give him time.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:45 pm

the times when he plays decent are the times he gets consistent minutes..duh loil And he has no business shooting mid range jumpers...
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:51 pm

That is my point; give him more minutes and he will make good use of it.
But make sure his minutes are consistent...like don't give him 10 minutes one night and 40 the next night. Boost his confidence a bit...and face it, the Raps aren't a contender so they might as well give the younger players more experience.

and his mid range jumpers aren't too bad...sometimes anyway.
I miss his dunks though lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:08 pm

"potential" Gets coaches fired lol. They have to play who can win them games.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:19 pm

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"potential" Gets coaches fired lol. They have to play who can win them games.

adding on:

most times, a player either looks good or he doesn't. there aren't many late bloomers.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:03 pm

DeRozan was one of those guys when he was drafted out of USC that I thought to myself, "Yeah... you should've stayed longer at school."

However because his mom has lupus and he was practically guaranteed to be a lottery pick based on potential, he left early.

Athleticism and talent can get you drafted. Understanding your strengths and weaknesses and knowing how to play the game will give you a career.

This is his second year and I think because of his demeanor DeRozan will never be a superstar. Maybe a solid second option in time. But he needs to develop and polish his perimeter skills (so that he can drive more... no one is getting pump faked by his jump shot) and push himself to be more assertive if not aggressive.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:14 pm

Derozen is playing on a Raptors team with Bargnani as the #1 option and not alot of talent or a go to guy. I thought he'd have a solid coming out season but he's been dissapointing.

I forgot who mentioned it but maybe playing with a different pg would help. That's if it's a pg he could get on the break and run with. It seems like dunking and athleticism is his only real strength. Maybe if he played with a PG like Baron Davis for example

Derozen is another Gerald Green if you ask me.

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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:24 pm

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Derozen is playing on a Raptors team with Bargnani as the #1 option and not alot of talent or a go to guy. I thought he'd have a solid coming out season but he's been dissapointing.

I forgot who mentioned it but maybe playing with a different pg would help. That's if it's a pg he could get on the break and run with. It seems like dunking and athleticism is his only real strength. Maybe if he played with a PG like Baron Davis for example

Derozen is another Gerald Green if you ask me.
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Yeah right now in between Gerald Green and James White. DeRozan maybe a tad better than that now.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:26 pm

I think putting him in Gerald Green/James White territory is kinda' insulting.

He actually tries hard. Neither Green or White did that. Those guys coasted on talent and were both headaches on their teams.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:59 pm

he tries hard!!? wow...hows that for wrong drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:05 pm

THAT D-BAG BETTER DO GOOD BECAUSE HE'S ON MY FANTASY TEAM
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:14 am

Yo Adrien! wrote:
5 star Baller wrote:
"potential" Gets coaches fired lol. They have to play who can win them games.

adding on:

most times, a player either looks good or he doesn't. there aren't many late bloomers.

um ill name a few late bloomers
Danny Granger, Devin Harris, Jameer Nelson, Zach Randolph
there are lots of late bloomers in the league
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:45 am

Thank you Snow/Nick C!


Give the guy some time before conclusions are drawn.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:56 am

"Dissapointment this season"


im not making conclusions...just an early season observation.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:05 pm

Snow. wrote:
Yo Adrien! wrote:
5 star Baller wrote:
"potential" Gets coaches fired lol. They have to play who can win them games.

adding on:

most times, a player either looks good or he doesn't. there aren't many late bloomers.

um ill name a few late bloomers
Danny Granger, Devin Harris, Jameer Nelson, Zach Randolph
there are lots of late bloomers in the league

granger yes, but that team has gotten worse since then. kinds goes back to what Visa said. it gets coaches fired.

harris was on a really great team and had to work his way in

nelson really isn't that much better now than he was his second season

randolph was also a young player entering the league to a 50 win team. he had to be worked in.

only situation that's the same is granger, and that's if derozan ever become good. so many teams have waited for potential to pan out and not had it work or had setbacks after they achieved it. if by the end of this season, he doesn't show a good amount of improvement, it's highly improbable that he's going to be as good as any the guys you mentioned. he's on bad team, and theres nothing limiting his minutes. if he's a good player, it'll show.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:03 pm

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Too early to make such a statement.

In addition, he is getting accustomed to playing more minutes compared to last season.
Even then, his minutes are somewhat sporadic...the times he gets more minutes are the times he scores in the double digits.

Pus, if you watch some of the games...you can see that he has improved his shooting from mid-range. Give him time.

I love SRF for this.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:49 pm

..and have you seen DDR's stats as of late? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:51 pm

Toronto is unbalanced.
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:51 pm

yessir! look at him now
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:52 pm

King wrote:
Toronto is unbalanced.

What do you mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:53 pm

Just kidding, rather watch him develop during the next few years/
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:55 pm

Ginobili! wrote:
King wrote:
Toronto is unbalanced.

What do you mean?

#1 They have no starting Center
#2 They have 5 Power Forwards + Andrea Bargnani
#3 They have no natural PG
#4 Bad rotation
#5 Too many good players at one position (PF) and now enough at oth
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PostSubject: Re: Demarr derozen is such a disappointment this season.    Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:57 pm

1. Andrea Bargnani
2. Admit we need another solid C
3. Jose Calderon!

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