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PostSubject: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:26 pm

Top 15

What do you say about this

1.Bill Russell
2.Hakeem Olajuwon
3.Dennis Rodman
4.Dikembe Mutombo
5.Tim Duncan
6.Ben Wallace
7.Sidney Moncrief
8.Scottie Pippen
9.Michael Jordan
10.Kevin Garnett
11.Bobby Jones
12.Dave Debusschere
13.Joe Dumars
14.Gary Payton
15.David Robinson

HM:Alonzo Mourning etc

BQ:Ben Wallace or Dikembe Mutombo?

BQ2:Sidney Moncrief or Scottie Pippen

BQ3:Who do i miss

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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:24 pm

Only reason you made this thread is to bring up bill russell :/
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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:28 pm

X wrote:
Only reason you made this thread is to bring up bill russell :/

LOL...+1
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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:32 pm

X wrote:
Only reason you made this thread is to bring up bill russell :/

You are dumb...

I didn't make this list to bring Russell.You have no idea what are you saying.I made this list,so i can see some comments and thoughts on it.Maybe,i have it somewhere wrong and some selections are just not ok....

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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:34 pm

http://realbasketballtalk.motionsforum.com/search.forum?mode=searchbox&search_keywords=Defenders&show_results=topics

Look at those threads, Darko. you're the only one who has made those...why do you keep making them?
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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:16 am

To ask for some opinion!
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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:00 pm

All time:

Bill rusell is most likley the best defender the league has seen
Dennis rodman another crazy ass defender
Gary Payton,the glove made people frustrated
Bruce bowen,liked to just annoy the opposing player..
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PostSubject: Re: Best defenders in the Nba of all time?   Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:02 pm

We'd have to separate defenders into the two categories:

1. Perimeter defenders: Which guys were able to slow down the best offensive perimeter players, make them take shots they don't want to? Who can make smart steals to create offense on the break?

Guys like Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, John Stockton and Jason Kidd are in this category.

2. Low post defenders: Which guys were able to slow down the best offensive big men, able to keep them from getting offensive rebounds for putbacks or even defensive rebounds to get the ball going the other way?

Guys like Wilt, Bill Russell, Ben Wallace, and KG are in this category.

To say the Bill Russell or Wilt as the best defender of all time isn't appropriate because of two reasons. One, the stats on defense always favor the big men (rebounds and blocks) while forcing players to miss shots and turnovers never get counted as positives (this is the defense we see guards and swingmen do better). Two, don't tell me that the big men of the NBA can stop guards on the perimeter. Dwight Howard would get schooled by Rip Hamilton much less Kobe Bryant if he wanted to play lock down D instead of low post and block the shot D.
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