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PostSubject: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:59 pm




Saw it on my friends facebook page and found it interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:03 pm

Agreed. 100%...like seriously..stfu...nigger nigger nigger slave,,like whatever
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:21 pm

well if white people say "nigger nigger nigger slave" then that wouldn't really be whatever cuz that's racist hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:28 pm

Well ..if a white person says it im not getting the weapons...im going to check myself and see if i was being a "nigger"
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:36 pm

how can somebody be a "nigger"??

scratch

Never heard that before haha
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:52 pm

A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent; A person of Negro descent who acts in an unapproved manner
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:56 pm

oh nvm.. you know what, I have heard someone use it like that before.

I think it's dumb.. so good black people are just black people but bad black people are niggers? That's just stupid and wrong.


but anyway... no one else has anything to say? Tough topic to talk about? hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:28 pm

I agree 100%... But if a white calls me a "nigger".. oh it's goin down.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:41 pm

Not really a tough subject to talk about... the dude has some points, but the problem is that he is referencing it like all black people believe that we want an apology.

The black side of my family consist of lawyers, politicians, doctors, police officers, teachers and so forth... My Grandfather had the first black owned dentistry in Shreveport, Louisiana... he took so much business away from the white dentist that the KKK made a visit and lit a crucifix on his lawn and fire bombed his house with my mom and her siblings in the house crammed into the basement with my oldest uncle protecting them with a pistol. He gave my grandma a rifle and he took a shotgun and they fought off the KKK.

This was only 45 or so years ago when it happened. This is my uncle, but the beginning of the "Early years" explains everything http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuthbert_Ormond_Simpkins


So when this guy is arguing against an apology for slavery 300+ years ago, because a couple of morons want one or believe they were wronged by whites... it like talking about a subject you know very little about... yeah you may hit some broad points, but you aren't understanding that racism and in general human rights were knowing, illegally violated since the late 70's.

So both sides need to do the research. Most of the slaves were not taken, but traded by african kings and rulers for european goods. Most slaves were already slaves... or basically the poor workers of african countries.

Really the problem is the treatment of the slaves when they arrived in the US and the lack of rights. The Irish were not treated the same way as african, native american, latin and asian slaves... the Irish had far more rights and far less racial discrimination.

I personally don't feel like I need a apology... really I feel like my generation and on has moved on to the next phase of human race. Integration.

Bt there are still some out there that want to hold on to old history or use excuses of old history as a way of deflecting their inability to move forward.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:16 pm

I didn't feel like he was referring to all black people... it seemed like he was just talking to the ones that feel like they need an apology for slavery.


the black dude in that video though was referring to all white people because he said "white society." If you find his full video, he says "an entire race of people....." I'm white. So that would mean me too... but my parents, grandparents, and so on weren't even born in America. They were born in Serbia [former yugoslavia] and never owned slaves. My dad never even saw a black guy until he moved to chicago. So I or my ancestors are somehow responsible for what happened in this country a long time ago? obviously not.. So saying shit like that is just fuckin stupid.

But even white people that did have ancestors here during slavery aren't at fault. They obviously weren't around so why should they apologize? yeah, we should feel bad that it happened.. everyone should. Things like that are just wrong.

Like you said, black people were sold by their own people to whites.. some black people do know that... but they still choose only to blame the whites for what had happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:35 pm

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I didn't feel like he was referring to all black people... it seemed like he was just talking to the ones that feel like they need an apology for slavery.


the black dude in that video though was referring to all white people because he said "white society." If you find his full video, he says "an entire race of people....." I'm white. So that would mean me too... but my parents, grandparents, and so on weren't even born in America. They were born in Serbia [former yugoslavia] and never owned slaves. My dad never even saw a black guy until he moved to chicago. So I or my ancestors are somehow responsible for what happened in this country a long time ago? obviously not.. So saying shit like that is just fuckin stupid.

But even white people that did have ancestors here during slavery aren't at fault. They obviously weren't around so why should they apologize? yeah, we should feel bad that it happened.. everyone should. Things like that are just wrong.

Like you said, black people were sold by their own people to whites.. some black people do know that... but they still choose only to blame the whites for what had happened.


Exactly.

I still think he's making broad statements and generalizing blacks as much as the black dude was generalizing whites... but that's what I'm talking about when I say "a few morons". Both of these guys need to have a more focused and researched points because really it's two dudes ranting with neither being very specific.

And thoughts about racism on an open forum like youtube should be handled with more intelligence. But youtube is stuffed with meatheads who are basically just ranting.

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but my parents, grandparents, and so on weren't even born in America. They were born in Serbia [former yugoslavia] and never owned slaves. My dad never even saw a black guy until he moved to chicago. So I or my ancestors are somehow responsible for what happened in this country a long time ago? obviously not.. So saying shit like that is just fuckin stupid.


I wasn't raised like that black dude. And even though because of my family and their dealings with the KKK and racism in general... when supposedly that's something that I could but wouldn't use against white people.

I personally think it's dumb to hold on to that as a crutch.

I know about the past as you do, but it doesn't mean we have to keep hate alive. Or use it as a tool to hurt others.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:45 pm

"And thoughts about racism on an open forum like youtube should be handled with more intelligence. But youtube is stuffed with meatheads who are basically just ranting."



at least it's entertaining sometimes hahaha.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:50 pm

Hahaha...

True.

And sometimes it's just fucking scary. These guys are in the entertaining category for sure.

Well... the white guy at least.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:13 pm

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but my parents, grandparents, and so on weren't even born in America. They were born in Serbia [former yugoslavia] and never owned slaves. My dad never even saw a black guy until he moved to chicago. So I or my ancestors are somehow responsible for what happened in this country a long time ago? obviously not.. So saying shit like that is just fuckin stupid.


I wasn't raised like that black dude. And even though because of my family and their dealings with the KKK and racism in general... when supposedly that's something that I could but wouldn't use against white people.

I personally think it's dumb to hold on to that as a crutch.

I know about the past as you do, but it doesn't mean we have to keep hate alive. Or use it as a tool to hurt others.


and I wasn't raised like some white people who have racist grandparents or w/e haha. I honestly had no idea that there was such thing as slavery until I learned about it in school. My parents/grandparents never talked about it and never hated blacks.. so that's how I was raised. thinking everyone was the same.. If anything, they talked about the war between Bosnia and Serbia and how thr Turks ruled serbs for over 500 years and how this guy Nikola Tesla invented a lot of shit to do with electricity but Thomas edison gets all the credit and blah blah blah. hahaha.

but yeah... "it doesn't mean we have to keep hate alive. Or use it as a tool to hurt others." I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you guys agree with this dude?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:20 pm

Dude... Nikola Tesla... Is. The. Shit!

Fuck Thomas Edison... that bitch owed him money. If Telsa didn't release Edison and Westinghouse from his patent royalties those suckers would be bankrupt and no one would've known who they were.
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