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PostSubject: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:36 pm

Bucks get: #9, #19, Stephen Jackson and Beno Udrih, Shaun Livingston

Kings get: #10 and John Salmons.

Bobcats get: #7 and Corey Maggette.


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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:42 pm

Bucks trade interests me.

Udrih isn't a bad PG. he's a guy that's capable of starting, and if he didn't start, he's good enough to play at least 20 MPG... but the Bucks have Jennings.

This trade might be telling Jennings that he has 1 more year to step it up.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:43 pm

Bobcats gonna pick Tristan Thompson with 7. Doesn't make up for getting rid of Jackson.

And holy shit Bucks came outta this good.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:52 pm

yeah Bucks win this hands down.


but the Kings..... uhhh...
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:54 pm

Yeah idk what the Kings are doing. They like close to washed up Salmons enough to move down three spots AND trade away last years starting PG? What if Fredette and Walker are gone by 10?

And the Cats are gonna be so offensivly challenged next season its not even funny... Auginstin, Maggatte and Thompson are not gonna cut it... ever...

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:56 pm

Apparently the Bucks also got Livingston

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:59 pm

Yup, I just heard that too.


Now I'm really starting to wonder about brandon jennings...

And the bucks supposedly called around a month ago to see what Jennings is worth in the trade market.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:00 pm

The Bucks won this handily. Damn. No idea what Charlotte's going for, exactly...they must friggin' love Tristan Thompson.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:00 pm

That would be stupid to get rid of Jennings. Nobody is gonna be there at 7 thats better than Jennings, hell, Kyrie might never even be better than Jennings :/

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:01 pm

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The Bucks won this handily. Damn. No idea what Charlotte's going for, exactly...they must friggin' love Tristan Thompson.
They do. Detroit was gonna take him before them though.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:03 pm

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That would be stupid to get rid of Jennings. Nobody is gonna be there at 7 thats better than Jennings, hell, Kyrie might never even be better than Jennings :/

and you want Irving at 1?

If Kyrie doesn't end up being better than Jennings, the cavs have problems... cuz Jennings hasn't done shit since his 1 great month his rookie year.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:05 pm

Hell yeah I want Irving at one. But thats cause he's the best player in this draft. He probably will be better than Jennings but you never know beause this draft is awful. Jennings played amazing that one month, so he obviously has that talent level he just can't stay healthy.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:09 pm

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Hell yeah I want Irving at one. But thats cause he's the best player in this draft. He probably will be better than Jennings but you never know beause this draft is awful. Jennings played amazing that one month, so he obviously has that talent level he just can't stay healthy.

he was healthy for the rest of his rookie year and most of last year.

it was pretty obvious we had had a great start to his NBA career. No one guarded him 'cause they didn't respect him. He was lighting people up. Then defenders start playing up on him and he hasn't done anything since.

Also, BJ gets lit up when he guards bigger guards like Rose, Williams, and Wall... because he isn't very big.

Not a guy I would pick to do good in this league.

I'm gonna keep saying it until he plays a great year... not a great 15 games.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:11 pm

Good trade if you ask me Smile)
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:13 pm

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Hell yeah I want Irving at one. But thats cause he's the best player in this draft. He probably will be better than Jennings but you never know beause this draft is awful. Jennings played amazing that one month, so he obviously has that talent level he just can't stay healthy.

he was healthy for the rest of his rookie year and most of last year.

it was pretty obvious we had had a great start to his NBA career. No one guarded him 'cause they didn't respect him. He was lighting people up. Then defenders start playing up on him and he hasn't done anything since.

Also, BJ gets lit up when he guards bigger guards like Rose, Williams, and Wall... because he isn't very big.

Not a guy I would pick to do good in this league.

I'm gonna keep saying it until he plays a great year... not a great 15 games.
But the dude dropped what was it? 55 points. Thats crazy for LeBron. Jennings was in the league for a week.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:24 pm

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Hell yeah I want Irving at one. But thats cause he's the best player in this draft. He probably will be better than Jennings but you never know beause this draft is awful. Jennings played amazing that one month, so he obviously has that talent level he just can't stay healthy.

he was healthy for the rest of his rookie year and most of last year.

it was pretty obvious we had had a great start to his NBA career. No one guarded him 'cause they didn't respect him. He was lighting people up. Then defenders start playing up on him and he hasn't done anything since.

Also, BJ gets lit up when he guards bigger guards like Rose, Williams, and Wall... because he isn't very big.

Not a guy I would pick to do good in this league.

I'm gonna keep saying it until he plays a great year... not a great 15 games.
But the dude dropped what was it? 55 points. Thats crazy for LeBron. Jennings was in the league for a week.

and it happened against a terrible Warriors defense...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ConYsdSLIIA

Look at that ^. TERRIBLE D. Terrible D + getting hot = having a big game. He probably hit like 10 open shots that game. Even after he had 40 points, the Warriors were still leaving him open for 3.

Was it a good game? Yes.

But players worse than Jennings have had huge games like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:40 pm

Players worse than Jennings have not had 55 point games. Especially not when they're in their first week in the league.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:44 pm

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Players worse than Jennings have not had 55 point games. Especially not when they're in their first week in the league.

I never said players worse than Jennings have scored 55 points, although I'm sure there are some no name players that HAVE scored 50.

I said players worse than Jennings have had huge games like that.

And when you look at all the good games jennings has ever had, MOST of them have come against bad teams or teams that have a terrible defense.

People seriously have overhypes the shit outta Jennings and keep hanging onto that 55 point game. That's probably the worst thing that's ever happened to Jennings.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:51 pm

No it's not haha. You just don't like Jennings, which is understandable I guess,he is overhyped. But he's very good, has potential to be great and the 55 point performance(even if it was on the Dubs) was amazing and one of the best things that have ever happend to Jennings, I bet. I mean come on... he was in the nba for a week!

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:12 pm

Again, I never EVER said I didn't like Jennings. There is no reason for me not to like him. I hadn't even heard of until he got drafted by the bucks.

people just think I don't like him because I don't think he's as good as people are making him seem... all because of a good month, which I said at the time was "amazing."

And I did research.

Tony Delk had 53 points against the 2001 Kings, and he didn't even hit a 3.

Willie Burton scored 53.

/tracy Murray scored 50. He was a bench player.

All those guys are worse than Jennings... and they all had 50+ at least once... actually only once.

"one of the best things that have ever happend to Jennings, I bet. I mean come on... he was in the nba for a week!"

not the best. At the time, maybe. But since then, people have been expecting him to blow up like that every game, and he hasn't been able to. That may have been a one time thing.. and because people like you keep bringing that game up to show how much "potential" he has, he has to keep trying to live up to that game.

and a good player doesn't have 1 game you keep going to to show how good he is.... the player has multiple games. will BJ have more memorable games? maybe, who knows... but people keep going back to 1 game that means nothing except the fact that Jennings was hot against a bad team. So what.



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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:27 pm

Don't get so worked up over somebody saying Brandon Jennings has great potential and start doing a shitload of useless research.

Jennings does have great potential. He's like 21 and hes had some great games. The 55 point game isn't just Jennings being "hot against a bad team" because 55 point games don't happen everyday. And that wasn't "the worst thing that ever happened to Jennings", it probably was actually the best thing to ever happen to him. He scored 55 points. In the NBA. In his first WEEK. He put himself on the national radar, and when he gets to free agency a team is gonna pay him a shitload of money, just based on that game alone, hoping he can do it again. All of that is kinda obvious to me. Bringing up players who scored 50's off the bench or past their prime isn't gonna change that Jennings 50 point game showed that he has a chance to be a much better player than any of those three guys.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:36 pm

"shitload of useless research."

Typing in "worst players to ever score 50" in google and finding my answer in 3 minutes is a shitload of research? hmmm... who knew?

"Don't get so worked up over somebody saying Brandon Jennings has great potential"

debating basketball is getting "so worked up?" hmmmm..

Potential is equal to dog shit. Every player that gets drafted in the top 15 has a lot of potential and most of them end up being garbage. I don't talk about potential. I talk about everything the player has done. And Jennings in 2 seasons hasn't done much.

"when he gets to free agency a team is gonna pay him a shitload of money, just based on that game alone, hoping he can do it again"

Not if he shoots under 40%, struggles to get his team involved and gets burned by the best PG's in the league. Nobody's gonna pay shitload of money for that. His own team that he's on now was looking to see how much he was worth to see if it's worth trading him. Why would teams pay a lot of money for a guy knowing that?


"Bringing up players who scored 50's off the bench or past their prime isn't gonna change that Jennings 50 point game showed that he has a chance to be a much better player than any of those three guys."

I showed those guys because I said worse players have had games that big. So I obviously think Jennings is better than those guys... I also showed that because it shows that scoring 50 doesn't mean much if a few scrubs did it... so a guy like Jennings scoring 50 is nice, but nothing to hang onto forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:45 pm

This is fucking annoying. All I was saying is that this is a week draft and it's possible Kyrie is never gonna do better than Jennings will. I wasn't trying to get in a fucking debate about fucking brandon fucking jennings a fucking hour before the most fucking fun night of teh fucking season for me. fucking.

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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:52 pm

looks like you're the one who's getting worked up, buddy.


who knew a basketball opinion could get someone so riled up to the point where it dampens the mood of their most fun night of the season.


I guess I know who I'm not debating bball with anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade just went down   Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:54 pm

idk if you're joking.. but generally when somebody drops a fucking every other word, they are not serious :/

And I don't want to debate bball ever anyway. Because 1. its not even fun :/ 2. it involves googling shit 3. neither person wins 9 times outta 10

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